we have meaty data points, steve. many are looking for a rather substantial upward revision on our second look at third quarter gdp. i'm not sure if i buy into it. but trust me, if we do really see three-quarters to 1% upgrade, that would be something the markets would have to deal with. >> i don't agree, rick. not just because i reflexively disagree with you, i think that what i keep asking economists, all right, we're going from -- we've been talking about this for a couple weeks now. we probably are going to go to 3% from 2%, the original print. i don't hear any upside on fourth quarter. the only thing i'm seeing is maybe sandy gives a little boost. everybody is still in that 1% to 1.5% range. maybe the market get excited on revision of third quarter but i suggest it shouldn't if fourth quarter will be a 1.5% economy. >> i tell you what, if we get a 2.8 revision, i would venture to say you'll see at least a 7 to 10 basis point move in a ten-year note yield. whether it lasts or not is a big deal. it's worth 7 to 10